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is this going to be the warm and fuzzy mitt romney, the tough aggressive mitt romney, is this going to be the i'll bet you $10,000 mitt romney, the mitt romney that touched rick perry on his shoulder invading his space? >> this is his first time on this kind of a spotlight. so -- i think it's going to be mitt romney presenting a choice to people. i think he's going to talk about what he wants to do to get the economy moving. >> doesn't he have to be more specific though? >> my gosh, 59-point plan. i mean he's been criticized for being too specific. >> those were goals. they weren't specific options for how to reduce the deficit. what he will do if he's going to proceed with these tax cuts, how is he going to make up the difference. now he's coming up with $17,000 in deductions, already that is being challenged by the other side. >> oh, my gosh, he's presented, for example, on entitlement reform the most detailed plan anybody's ever presented running for president. he's going to be i think substantive tonight and himself tonight and present the choice to the american people about what w
is this going to be the warm and fuzzy mitt romney, the tough aggressive mitt romney, is this going to be the i'll bet you $10,000 mitt romney, the mitt romney that touched rick perry on his shoulder invading his space? >> this is his first time on this kind of a spotlight. so -- i think it's going to be mitt romney presenting a choice to people. i think he's going to talk about what he wants to do to get the economy moving. >> doesn't he have to be more specific though? >> my...
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romney, but romney was using what he had to whatever effect he could use it. what people were expecting was for barack obama to respond in kind. if you are being attacked, if you see somebody getting beat up on the side of the street and the guy doesn't fight back, you go, wow, that is just sad. like this guy just got beat up. why wouldn't he fight back and protect himself? barack obama was getting beat up. and he could have defended himself. it would have been a huge mistake for people to assume that barack obama is not effective at being able to communicate. he is very effective. knowing that and watching him not do what you know he is capable of doing was a very strange thing for most americans to see. >> got to wrap up it. charles blow, thanks for coming in. they both have attacks in their chest. if they are not using them, it's a debate, a battle. >> there you go. >>> if you fell asleep, if you forgot, if you were watching baseball because that was pretty good too the presidential debate will rerun on cnn in less than two hours. you can catch it again. go
romney, but romney was using what he had to whatever effect he could use it. what people were expecting was for barack obama to respond in kind. if you are being attacked, if you see somebody getting beat up on the side of the street and the guy doesn't fight back, you go, wow, that is just sad. like this guy just got beat up. why wouldn't he fight back and protect himself? barack obama was getting beat up. and he could have defended himself. it would have been a huge mistake for people to...
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mitt romney's had a lot of debates. he went through a long primary practice where he got beat up a lot and got to beat up other people. barack obama had no primary process and has not been in a debate since his debates in the last election. so i think he's got -- he's not in fighting shape is my guess and all these practices he's doing, are to get him in the fighting shape. hopefully they have enough time to do it and hopefully he has a sparring opponent in john kerry who is not pulling any punches, not being as respectful to him as his staff might be and showing him that mitt romney is going to get on the stage knowing this is probably his last chance and he's going to be very aggressive in taking on obama. >> steve, thank you very much for your time. >> good to be here. >> steve, what do you think about this idea that debates don't usually change the race entirely all by themselves, but they confirm the narrative that has already been going on in the country? >> well, they can confirm the narrative but we keep coming
mitt romney's had a lot of debates. he went through a long primary practice where he got beat up a lot and got to beat up other people. barack obama had no primary process and has not been in a debate since his debates in the last election. so i think he's got -- he's not in fighting shape is my guess and all these practices he's doing, are to get him in the fighting shape. hopefully they have enough time to do it and hopefully he has a sparring opponent in john kerry who is not pulling any...
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romney/ryan. romney/ryan. romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. thank you. >> the already weird interpersonal dynamics on the republican ticket reached a possible dezooe knit of awkwardness yesterday as governor romney campaigned with his running mate. as with all complex relationships it wasn't always like this. square jauds and earn had nest as a 1950's sitcom star he sounded like a lost member of the romney tribe. with ryan drawing crowds the alpha dog appears to be getting tired of reminding people who is the campaign pate tree yashg. >> i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president, not him. >> ryan doesn't always seem to get the message. in days he's been reportedly acting like a rebellious teenager going back to his old ways and giving power point presentations at campaign rallies. >> we can't keep spending money we don't have. today our federal government for every dollar it spends it borrows 36 cents on that dollar. by the time my three kids are around my age, at the top there, our debt is going to be 2.5 times t
romney/ryan. romney/ryan. romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. thank you. >> the already weird interpersonal dynamics on the republican ticket reached a possible dezooe knit of awkwardness yesterday as governor romney campaigned with his running mate. as with all complex relationships it wasn't always like this. square jauds and earn had nest as a 1950's sitcom star he sounded like a lost member of the romney tribe. with ryan drawing crowds the alpha dog appears to be getting tired of...
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yesterday, showing romney down 8. ohio has been a problem for romney since the primaries when of all the midwestern states it with us the closest one where rick santorum nearly pulled off an upset. it's certainly the toughest in the badleground. the problem for romney is if he concedes ohio to obama, the president is simile one state away from a win. it's not a florida or virginia. he's a wisconsin away, a nevada away. that's the real problem here. the romney campaign needs ohio back. like this line yesterday, they tried to hammer obama on taxes. take a listen. >> he's got one new idea. i admit this. he has one thing he did not do in his first four years he said he's going to do in the next four years which is to raise taxes. is there anybody who thinks raising taxes will help grow the economy? >> no. >> ryan's expression back there when he looks over at portman, kind of intriguing. it would be curious what a thought bubble would be going on over there. but it's a little bit of a change for romney. he had often been a
yesterday, showing romney down 8. ohio has been a problem for romney since the primaries when of all the midwestern states it with us the closest one where rick santorum nearly pulled off an upset. it's certainly the toughest in the badleground. the problem for romney is if he concedes ohio to obama, the president is simile one state away from a win. it's not a florida or virginia. he's a wisconsin away, a nevada away. that's the real problem here. the romney campaign needs ohio back. like this...
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romney was good. he got in the personal stories we heard from the trail. when he gets to the town hall he's going to have to do more about just talk with people he met and he has to engage. that's a different level. >> 1992, obama used to go back and look at the per perrot and clinton and he has that strength. he's a connector so we need to see him press the flesh and sell the smile. >> can you majts what that was like? >> it's the missed opportunity. would any political consultant will tell you is that you have to align your paid media with your free media. a debate is free media. his paid media is all about bane, the dream act, the auto industry rescue. right on down the looirn. in the paid media, none of them were mentioned except in passing. >> here's a good bipartisan question. why don't you take the messages of your paid media and use them in the debate? >> jonathan is so right. gm bailout helped obama win ohio in the polls. where was the message? >> in passing. that's the key. in passing. >> th
romney was good. he got in the personal stories we heard from the trail. when he gets to the town hall he's going to have to do more about just talk with people he met and he has to engage. that's a different level. >> 1992, obama used to go back and look at the per perrot and clinton and he has that strength. he's a connector so we need to see him press the flesh and sell the smile. >> can you majts what that was like? >> it's the missed opportunity. would any political...
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romney. gop nevada governor says about romney's 47% comment, quote, i don't agree with it. there's a lot of folks that i'm working extremely hard to get them unemployment and until they are employed, there are many services that are going to be needed. this is senator sandoval, a republican. people are understanding even in his own party how devastating this 47% tape you surfaced is and the president has it on an ad. >> people who conduct focus groups tell me that independent voters learned very quickly on their own about the 47% remark and focus groups said they brought it up on their own without being prompted and many have said that's reason enough for them to no longer consider voting for mitt romney and even some republicans in the margin have had similar reactions. looking at what the romney campaign has done the last few days and that ad they put out yesterday or the day before in which romney says, you know, the president is a good guy that cares about the poor and middle class, just
romney. gop nevada governor says about romney's 47% comment, quote, i don't agree with it. there's a lot of folks that i'm working extremely hard to get them unemployment and until they are employed, there are many services that are going to be needed. this is senator sandoval, a republican. people are understanding even in his own party how devastating this 47% tape you surfaced is and the president has it on an ad. >> people who conduct focus groups tell me that independent voters...
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where has this mitt romney been? >> i have to say, i don't think the coverage has been totally fair to him in the past months. but i know mitt very well. we know him better than anybody. he made the best winter olympics in the history of the movement and wind up with $100 million surplus. he turned it around. balanced the budget all four years and did it with a state legislature 80% opposed to everything he did. >> you know a lot of the folks running for re-election. you're technically running for re-election. there were republican candidates, were there not? they feel better this morning? >> i think so. you have to understand, this was a great man. he is a fine man. we can't find a better family anywhere. they are typical of the american dream. >> i want to talk about texas tax plan. is he calling for a tax cut? last night he said he was not. he has not called for any taxes to be cut. >> yes, he is for the middle class. a 20% reduction across the board and he's going to pay for it by solving tax loopholes. by tax ex
where has this mitt romney been? >> i have to say, i don't think the coverage has been totally fair to him in the past months. but i know mitt very well. we know him better than anybody. he made the best winter olympics in the history of the movement and wind up with $100 million surplus. he turned it around. balanced the budget all four years and did it with a state legislature 80% opposed to everything he did. >> you know a lot of the folks running for re-election. you're...
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it's romney himself. i think in the debates romney has two big problems that he's got to try to overcome. one is mathematics. he's got to show what loophole he's going to close. the second is authenticity. he's got to show that authentically he's someone that cares about average working people. he hasn't done both. he's losing ground because of both problems. >> when you look at the new gallup poll, be for example, it shows that the majority of americans think that the president is a better candidate for the middle class. 53% for president obama, thinking he's better for the middle class. romney, 43. and then you go to the president, who will the president do more to favor? middle class, wealthy, 66% say middle class. 17% say wealthy. who will mitt romney do more to favor? 35% say middle class, 57% say wealthy. how does romney overcome this overwhelming view that he is going to serve the wealthy and he doesn't serve or care about the middle class? >> i think romney has to be able to be accessible, number
it's romney himself. i think in the debates romney has two big problems that he's got to try to overcome. one is mathematics. he's got to show what loophole he's going to close. the second is authenticity. he's got to show that authentically he's someone that cares about average working people. he hasn't done both. he's losing ground because of both problems. >> when you look at the new gallup poll, be for example, it shows that the majority of americans think that the president is a...
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we saw it from romney a little bit. romney had that permagrin on. that smile is insincere and can can mark there's more to the story here. how do i reply to this? i disagree with this. underneath you feel a lot of agitation and probably some anger toward mitt romney in that particular story. >> thanks for giving us a good tip on how to come across as more likeable. i will do the head tilt all the time now. >> you're so much likeable now. than fantastic. >> when we keep our head level, it's level-headed. with the president the chin up is the power position. we watch him in 2008 with hillary clinton he used it a lot and in the debates with mccain and turn and engage mccain a lot more. we dindn't see that from the president so much this time. >> thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. go yankees. >>> up next. there is hope even one of the greatest presidents in american history didn't do that great his debates. more on that next. [ male announcer ] this is rudy. his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's overhaul starts with mo
we saw it from romney a little bit. romney had that permagrin on. that smile is insincere and can can mark there's more to the story here. how do i reply to this? i disagree with this. underneath you feel a lot of agitation and probably some anger toward mitt romney in that particular story. >> thanks for giving us a good tip on how to come across as more likeable. i will do the head tilt all the time now. >> you're so much likeable now. than fantastic. >> when we keep our...
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mitt romney is at 43%. both campaigns think this one is getting more difficult by the moment for mitt romney to win. however -- and this is where it gets fascinating -- in virginia, the president's lead has shrunk to just two points, within the margin of error. last month president obama led by five points there. in florida, mitt romney has closed the gap as well. he's now statistically tied in the state of florida. it is a one-point lead. 47%-46%. al hunt, it is fascinating. ohio seems to be on its own as far as the swing states go. but we could show other swing state polls in colorado, in nevada, in north carolina. these states are really getting tight, to such a degree that a great performance by romney tonight could change the dynamic. >> conceivably, but i don't think it's quite that close yet. i think you certainly see it, as you point out, in florida and virginia. you don't see it in ohio. wisconsin it looks like it's actually widening. iowa, it's four to six. and the problem by taking michigan and p
mitt romney is at 43%. both campaigns think this one is getting more difficult by the moment for mitt romney to win. however -- and this is where it gets fascinating -- in virginia, the president's lead has shrunk to just two points, within the margin of error. last month president obama led by five points there. in florida, mitt romney has closed the gap as well. he's now statistically tied in the state of florida. it is a one-point lead. 47%-46%. al hunt, it is fascinating. ohio seems to be...
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mitt romney into a relatable guy. at romney events they have been playing that video from the rnc but then they bumped that in favor of the crazy clint eastwood thing. this video about his family, it very nice. nobody saw it but they're using it at their events now and they have young mitt romney on a beach in france with his love letter to ann written in the sand. you can understand why mitt romney spent his draft eligible years writing love letters to ann in france. it might be worth a pound of questions about how he avoided serving during the war. they've even got him talking about health reform in that's again. conservatives are so scared of him losing as badly as he's losing, they are not even squawking about it as they did when he talked about romney care last month. they are trying to make people dislike their candidate less. and then thurston strikes again. >> he pulled me in, he tied up the boat for me, he rescued me just as he's going to rescue this great country. >> at the national level, fairly or not, vot
mitt romney into a relatable guy. at romney events they have been playing that video from the rnc but then they bumped that in favor of the crazy clint eastwood thing. this video about his family, it very nice. nobody saw it but they're using it at their events now and they have young mitt romney on a beach in france with his love letter to ann written in the sand. you can understand why mitt romney spent his draft eligible years writing love letters to ann in france. it might be worth a pound...
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>> it's critical to mitt romney. he really does have to show his stuff there, and he has to-- he has to change his emage. he has the image of a kru club republican. he has to go after president obama in a coherent way with a real message. but, you know, history tells me, bob, that generally speaking, the challenger does gain from the first debate. it will be a surprise if he doesn't gain. and he very much needs to. he needs to get some momentum. based on history, i would say the odds favor mitt romney in the first debate. >> schieffer: let me ask you about your home state, virginia. your center is headquartered at u.v.a. what's happening there? is this going to come down to virginia? a lot of people think it might. >> well, it could. obviously, it would have to be very close to come down to virginia with 13 electoral vote. i'll tell you, it's caused me to question some of the polls because based on everything i know about verg, everything i've seen, i think the real margin is actually quite close. i would give presid
>> it's critical to mitt romney. he really does have to show his stuff there, and he has to-- he has to change his emage. he has the image of a kru club republican. he has to go after president obama in a coherent way with a real message. but, you know, history tells me, bob, that generally speaking, the challenger does gain from the first debate. it will be a surprise if he doesn't gain. and he very much needs to. he needs to get some momentum. based on history, i would say the odds...
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romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both clips mitt looks just as goofy which caused me to react. some people heard romney. other people heard ryan. our clip from nbc, unfiltered, we ran it. politico heard ryan as well, and they report it had that way around 5:30 the afternoon of the event, which was what our staff followed. later "the new york times" wrote that the crowd was chanting "romney," then they followed with a correction that our staff read overnight saying kind of hard to follow what it was. this was among the chee-tos brigade as to whether i would vote for mitt romney, is trying to throw the election by filtering a tape and cracking a joke. really, guys? your conspiracy theories are getting out of hand, the poll con spercy, the fox news to throw the election for barack obama? it's getting out of hand. like this two-second frenzy is just silly. conservative blogger jazz shawl for hotair. too many people who are ostensibly fighting for the conservative cause have ch
romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both clips mitt looks just as goofy which caused me to react. some people heard romney. other people heard ryan. our clip from nbc, unfiltered, we ran it. politico heard ryan as well, and they report it had that way around 5:30 the afternoon of the event, which was what our staff followed. later "the new york times" wrote that the crowd was chanting "romney," then they followed with a correction...
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for obama, john kerry's plays romney. rob portman plays obama. >> you never see videotape of this, not even pictures. >> no. there's a reason why. you don't want to show those vulnerable moments. >> we don't want to give away any component to our prep. >> in the 2000 campaign, one of mckinnon's secretaries gave prep video to the gore campaign. >> gore campaign went straight to the fbi. >> what happened to her? >> she went to prison for a year. >> what's so secret? i pretended to be a candidate. limited government -- >> just limited government. what kind of limits are you talking about? can you be specific. >> yes, i can list cuts. >> would you cut defense? >> so you're soft on defense? >> i knew how i should answer the questions, but under pressure it's hard. i'm saying take it back to the clinton days. "instinct is to answer the questions that are asked, but consultants day don't. >> you're still answering my questions, but most of the time you want to be delivering your message. >> they say sarah palin was good at that.
for obama, john kerry's plays romney. rob portman plays obama. >> you never see videotape of this, not even pictures. >> no. there's a reason why. you don't want to show those vulnerable moments. >> we don't want to give away any component to our prep. >> in the 2000 campaign, one of mckinnon's secretaries gave prep video to the gore campaign. >> gore campaign went straight to the fbi. >> what happened to her? >> she went to prison for a year. >>...
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romney, ryan, romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. all right, that's great. thank you. >> it's possible to forgive poor mitt romney for feeling a little overshadowed by his running mate. after all, it's hard to compete with a guy who can catch fish with his bare hands while at the same time promoting a budget that would rob kids of their free lunch meals. how much of mitt romney's campaign belong to mitt romney? you can't help but wonder if mr. romney is just going along for the ride. joining us is tim dickinson of "rolling stone." his new article is in the current issue of the magazine and an excellent read it is, too. tim, i'd like to show you something before we delve into your article. just take a listen to this, tim. >> the only thing that limits you is your god given talent and your own effort. we need to have that dynamic economy returned. do you that by growing the economy and getting people a hand up, not a hand out. teach a man how to fish, he can feed himself for a life. don't simply feed fish. >> right. sow doesn't believe in handouts. he won't ev
romney, ryan, romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. all right, that's great. thank you. >> it's possible to forgive poor mitt romney for feeling a little overshadowed by his running mate. after all, it's hard to compete with a guy who can catch fish with his bare hands while at the same time promoting a budget that would rob kids of their free lunch meals. how much of mitt romney's campaign belong to mitt romney? you can't help but wonder if mr. romney is just going along for the ride....
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romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. that's great. thank you. >> meanwhile congressman ryan a big green bay packers fan vented about that call on monday night football. went on to compare the nfl's replacement refs, yes, to the obama administration. >> i got to start off on something that was really troubling that occurred last night. did you watch that packer game last night? i mean, give me a break. i half think that these refs work part-time for the obama administration in the budget office. trying to pick the winners and losers and they don't even do that very well. unlike the seattle seahawks last night, we want to deserve this victory. >> vice president joe biden meanwhile has beenle holding mock debate sessions with chris van holland and campaigned yesterday in the state of virginia, keeping romney's comments about the 47% in his line of attack. >> he attacks the 47% of the american people who he says paid no federal taxes. and he attacks, he, romney, attacking someone on taxes? woah. that's like me attacking someone for being
romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. that's great. thank you. >> meanwhile congressman ryan a big green bay packers fan vented about that call on monday night football. went on to compare the nfl's replacement refs, yes, to the obama administration. >> i got to start off on something that was really troubling that occurred last night. did you watch that packer game last night? i mean, give me a break. i half think that these refs work part-time for the obama...
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romney is reacting to that. he's said clearly i'm not going to increase the tax burden of the middle class. i think the problem is that he hasn't given any details that allow us to see a plan that does add up. as he said yesterday, he's not promising a tax cut, he's promising tax reform. the question that people have, the reason reasonable question, let's see details. >> what does mitt romney, what does the republican party define as middle class? if you look at martin feldstein's analysis, a romney guy you have to raise taxes on people making between $100,000 and $200,000 a year which is in certain cities decidedly middle class the definition of middle class is bipartisan issue. president obama defines it anyone making up to $200,000. if you're making 100,000, 150,000, 200,000 you're in the top few percentage points of this country. even in expensive places people making $150,000 have a pretty tenuous claim on being middle class when you look at the numbers. >> thank you to david leonhardt of "the new york time
romney is reacting to that. he's said clearly i'm not going to increase the tax burden of the middle class. i think the problem is that he hasn't given any details that allow us to see a plan that does add up. as he said yesterday, he's not promising a tax cut, he's promising tax reform. the question that people have, the reason reasonable question, let's see details. >> what does mitt romney, what does the republican party define as middle class? if you look at martin feldstein's...
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the best attack ad on romney is mitt romney. to pick up on michael and michelle's point, what is romney going to come with in the campaign to have a good showing? he can't talk about taxes with tacks being the lowest they have been in 50 years. he can't talk about medicaid and medicare because their policies are unpopular. he can't talk about foreign policy, he doesn't have anything. the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has a very good answer to that. and that's on offense. then you think about what he has to do on defense. he's going to be on the defense on the 47%. he's going to be on defense on his tax question. i mean, this is a guy who doesn't have very much to work with at this point. so it's hard for me to see, even if he doesn't make a major gaffe, which he does on a weekly basis, even if he doesn't, what ammunition does he have to actually have a good showing? >> i'm told there are examples of elections turning on debates, president bush for example
the best attack ad on romney is mitt romney. to pick up on michael and michelle's point, what is romney going to come with in the campaign to have a good showing? he can't talk about taxes with tacks being the lowest they have been in 50 years. he can't talk about medicaid and medicare because their policies are unpopular. he can't talk about foreign policy, he doesn't have anything. the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has...
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this is the romney pre-game show. will mitt romney be held accountable for lies and distortions about president obama's record? we got a sneak preview of what happens when mitt romney is forced to tell the truth. a fox affiliate here in denver asked romney to explain what paul ryan could not, how he plans to pay for $5 trillion tax cut by only eliminating deductions. >> there's an option. you could say everybody is going to get up to a deduction and you could use your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction and fill that bucket, if you will, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. >> at least the plan has a name. it's the bucket plan. mitt romney will cap deductions at $17,000 for all americans. is that good for the middle class? do the math. for rich americans, the cap, it just might be lower than that. he was very vague on that point as well. the big problem with romney's bucket plan besides being hilarious is it would only cover $1 to $2 trillion of the $5 tr
this is the romney pre-game show. will mitt romney be held accountable for lies and distortions about president obama's record? we got a sneak preview of what happens when mitt romney is forced to tell the truth. a fox affiliate here in denver asked romney to explain what paul ryan could not, how he plans to pay for $5 trillion tax cut by only eliminating deductions. >> there's an option. you could say everybody is going to get up to a deduction and you could use your home mortgage...
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>> ryan, ryan. >> way to a second, romney-ryan, romney-ryan, there you go. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> joe scarborough and mika brzezinski on "morning joe." "slowly and reluctantly, republicans who love romney are concluding that for all his gifts as a leader and role model, he is just not a good political candidate in this era." is that fair, mark? >> it is affair. you want to go to the numbers. wherever mitt romney goes, his unfavorable numbers go up. in florida in may, he was at 35% unfavorable. now he is 48% unfavorable. in ohio, 34%, now 49%. it is a problem. that has just been the reverse with obama. what do you do? mitt does not have a rose garden. >> charles, you write that in the wake of what is happening in the middle east, romney's "un willingness to go big is simply astonishing." >> it was a great opening this week, with embassies of flame, the ambassador killed, writes -- riots -- that is a collapse of the four-year policy on the middle east. rather than make a serious speech connecting the dots and talking about exactly that, the collapse of the policy or the result of a naiv
>> ryan, ryan. >> way to a second, romney-ryan, romney-ryan, there you go. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> joe scarborough and mika brzezinski on "morning joe." "slowly and reluctantly, republicans who love romney are concluding that for all his gifts as a leader and role model, he is just not a good political candidate in this era." is that fair, mark? >> it is affair. you want to go to the numbers. wherever mitt romney goes, his unfavorable numbers go...
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the romney campaign. he has to make his case, and he has to make his case he's a better candidate than barack obama. he has to throw some punches. he can't just kind of go in there sort of apologetically and be very gentle with obama. he has to really throw some punches and show people why he's the better candidate. i think a lot of these polls are a little bit overstated. i think the democrats have been oversampled in a lot of polls, and i don't think there's that huge of a gap between romney and obama. nonetheless, he has to make a really strong stand in the first debate. this is probably the most important debate for him at this point in the campaign. >> i don't want to let that statement about polls go unanswered. eugene robinson's piece today is about what he calls the new conspiracy. republicans diluted that there are skewed polls. paul ryan was the latest one to join on the bandwagon last night talking about wisconsin. >> i don't believe that particular poll. i won't get into the methodologies abou
the romney campaign. he has to make his case, and he has to make his case he's a better candidate than barack obama. he has to throw some punches. he can't just kind of go in there sort of apologetically and be very gentle with obama. he has to really throw some punches and show people why he's the better candidate. i think a lot of these polls are a little bit overstated. i think the democrats have been oversampled in a lot of polls, and i don't think there's that huge of a gap between romney...
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romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as the moderator and obama will come after him. >> the way the rules work here i get 60 seconds. anderson -- >> you knew you had illegal -- >> would you please wait. >> with mitt romney, is there ever such a thing as a crisis averted? >> i think as people look at his record and imagine him debating obama, obama is going to laugh at him. >> you ask me an entirely different question. >> now alex is out today on vacation on the planet of jupiter but did leave behind a special gift we on behalf of alex wagner want to congratulate ben smith on reaching 100,000 twitter fo
romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as...
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folks within the romney/ryan camp. the way it's unfolding in the polls is not good. there's a report that says that romney is beginning to lose donors who were shifting their money to house and senate races. what's going on here? is this starting to take it its toll on the campaign? >> yes. in many ways what mitt romney's challenge is on wednesday night is to stop the bleeding within his own party and within his own camp. absolutely. behind the scenes, republicans are very worried. some are saying so publically. if mitt romney doesn't reassure them within the first half hour of the debate, they are goners. now you're seeing already, a lot of the independent super pacs who are blessed with their own money are going elsewhere. they are desperately trying to keep a low margin in the senate. the democrats still hold it. republicans have faint hopes of taking it. they are looking at governors races, state legislatures, they are look at any place to protect themselves from what, at this minute, looks like a fairly comfortabl
folks within the romney/ryan camp. the way it's unfolding in the polls is not good. there's a report that says that romney is beginning to lose donors who were shifting their money to house and senate races. what's going on here? is this starting to take it its toll on the campaign? >> yes. in many ways what mitt romney's challenge is on wednesday night is to stop the bleeding within his own party and within his own camp. absolutely. behind the scenes, republicans are very worried. some...
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>> what a second, romney-ryan, romney-ryan, romney-ryan. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> joe scarborough and mika brzezinski on "morning show." slowly and reluctantly, those who have worked for mitt romney are concluding that he is just not a good political candidate. is that fair, mark? >> it is fair. you wa to go back to the numbers. wherever mitt romney goes, his unfavorable number goes up. in florida in, he was at 35% unfavorable personally. now he is at 48% unfavorable. ohio, 34%, now 49%. it is a problem. that has just been the reverse with obama. what do you do? you could read the rose garden strategy. mitt it does not have a rose garden. >> charles, you write that " romney's and willingness to go big, to go for the larger argument, is simply astonishing ." >> it was a great opening, politically. american embassies of flame, ambassador being killed, an american riots in tunisia -- that is the collapse of a four- year policy on the middle east. rather than make a serious speech connecting the dots and talking about exactly that, the collapse of the policy, the result of a naive approach to
>> what a second, romney-ryan, romney-ryan, romney-ryan. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> joe scarborough and mika brzezinski on "morning show." slowly and reluctantly, those who have worked for mitt romney are concluding that he is just not a good political candidate. is that fair, mark? >> it is fair. you wa to go back to the numbers. wherever mitt romney goes, his unfavorable number goes up. in florida in, he was at 35% unfavorable personally. now he is at 48%...
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only if romney performs well. >> chris kofinis, do you believe that romney can turn this around as many months as he's had, one misstep after another, and by a wide margin, americans think president obama is going to win this debate and has the upper hand. what about expectations and what about the possibility of romney turning this around? what do you think? >> well, that's clearly their strategy. you have to love governor christie for raising expectations, but he was basically telling the truth. the romney campaign has to have a good performance to change the narrative of a campaign in a spiral to death. can he do it? i don't know. i have not seen any indication from governor romney or his campaign at any moment, whether it was the convention, during the summer, since the convention, that suggests they are able to maximize, you know, an opportunity. so i'm a little suspicious. but the reality is, he's going to come in here with a little lowered expectations and at least in terms of the public opinion polls. but let's be honest. he's a good debater. the problem with governor romney is
only if romney performs well. >> chris kofinis, do you believe that romney can turn this around as many months as he's had, one misstep after another, and by a wide margin, americans think president obama is going to win this debate and has the upper hand. what about expectations and what about the possibility of romney turning this around? what do you think? >> well, that's clearly their strategy. you have to love governor christie for raising expectations, but he was basically...
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who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything for him. it's his last chance. donors are going to go away if he doesn't do well. he's going to lose the support of establishment republicans who will start giving their money to senate candidates instead. it's a tremendous amount of pressure. so he's really got the expectations game that he's got to fulfill, and we'll see how he does. >> anne, this praise of mitt romney about an anecdote of being abandoned on a boat his hi grandkids. take a look and take a listen. >> i said, who's going to grab the rope? and i looked up, and there was mitt romney. so he pull ed me in, tied up th boat for me,
who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything...
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romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make sure he gets his share of sound bites in the newscasts that follow. >> based on previous debate performances, how would you characterize governor romney's style versus the president's style? >> romney is good on the attack, i think. as i just indicated, i mean, when he needed to flash the knife against rick perry in that one debate i'm particularly thinking of, he really did it. he's good at that, and he's not going to back down. you know, a lot of this also comes down to interpersonal dynamics and how they play off each other an
romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make...
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romney's strength. first of all, how many of you rated hum a stronger leader. and that was one of the areas where mitt romney really stood out. let's ask karen ren sick a question. an unemployed voter, trying to make up your mind. when we heard that high moment from mitt romney, it stood out to you, why did it? >> i was surprised president obama did not stand out more and stronger in this. when mitt romney said the things he said, especially leaning back and showing the constitution and the bill of rights and it just really struck in me, yeah, this man could really help me in the job market and our economy. he stood out as a stronger candidate to me. >> did he stand out as someone that connects with you personally in a way he hasn't so far? >> yes, from the 's, i thought he was much more aloof than he appeared tonight. >> let's get to some of the lows, wolf. there were a couple of moments that our focus group reacted negatively to. >> the low points in the debate for president obama and governor romney,
romney's strength. first of all, how many of you rated hum a stronger leader. and that was one of the areas where mitt romney really stood out. let's ask karen ren sick a question. an unemployed voter, trying to make up your mind. when we heard that high moment from mitt romney, it stood out to you, why did it? >> i was surprised president obama did not stand out more and stronger in this. when mitt romney said the things he said, especially leaning back and showing the constitution and...
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ed said i see no connection between that mitt romney and this mitt romney. you've talked about the remarkable things he's done on wall street. what he did with bain capital, what a great american success story that is. and yet for you as well, there's a huge disconnect between that mitt romney and the mitt romney that we're seeing bumbling around on the campaign trail. it seems that while presidential elections elevate some like reagan and clinton, they diminish others like mitt romney. >> yeah, i think people like me who are fundamentally kind of technocrats and businesspeople look at what he did in massachusetts and say he got a lot of stuff done, worked with the rest of the government, et cetera, et cetera, got health care done, this is how government should function, but i think it's relatively obvious that what happened out on the campaign trail is that he was pushed into places, into corners, into positions that he may or may not actually believe in, but which portray him and create an image of him in a very, very different light. and so now we are lef
ed said i see no connection between that mitt romney and this mitt romney. you've talked about the remarkable things he's done on wall street. what he did with bain capital, what a great american success story that is. and yet for you as well, there's a huge disconnect between that mitt romney and the mitt romney that we're seeing bumbling around on the campaign trail. it seems that while presidential elections elevate some like reagan and clinton, they diminish others like mitt romney....
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for obama, john kerry's plays romney. rob portman plays obama. >> you never see videotape of this, not even pictures. >> no. there's a reason why. you don't want to show those vulnerable moments. >> we don't want to give away any component to our prep. >> in the 2000 campaign, one of mckinnon's secretaries gave prep video to the gore campaign. >> gore campaign went straight to the fbi. >> what happened to her? >> she went to prison for a year. >> what's so secret? i pretended to be a candidate. limited government -- >> just limited government. what kind of limits are you talking about? can you be specific. >> yes, i can list cuts. >> would you cut defense? >> so you're soft on defense? >> i knew how i should answer the questions, but under pressure it's hard. i'm saying take it back to the clinton days. "instinct is to answer the questions that are asked, but consultants day don't. >> you're still answering my questions, but most of the time you want to be delivering your message. >> they say sarah palin was good at that.
for obama, john kerry's plays romney. rob portman plays obama. >> you never see videotape of this, not even pictures. >> no. there's a reason why. you don't want to show those vulnerable moments. >> we don't want to give away any component to our prep. >> in the 2000 campaign, one of mckinnon's secretaries gave prep video to the gore campaign. >> gore campaign went straight to the fbi. >> what happened to her? >> she went to prison for a year. >>...
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certainly not mitt romney. we've got people stationed, men and women, stationed in afghanistan and they're not talking about the war. you did a great segment on that last night. >> at least a long segment. 68 -- >> for good reasons. >> 68,000 americans who are really incredibly talented, incredible resources for our country, people in the prime of their lives risking their lives every day right now and in 2004, in that presidential campaign, we were at war and george w. bush and john kerry fought it out every day about the war. in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifia
certainly not mitt romney. we've got people stationed, men and women, stationed in afghanistan and they're not talking about the war. you did a great segment on that last night. >> at least a long segment. 68 -- >> for good reasons. >> 68,000 americans who are really incredibly talented, incredible resources for our country, people in the prime of their lives risking their lives every day right now and in 2004, in that presidential campaign, we were at war and george w. bush...
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but you are going to see a new league for mitt romney. and the confidence that he brings to the stage may in fact help. they are the only place he has to go right now. >> cenk: i wonder if that will lead him to swing a little bit more wildly. >> paul ryan was his wild swing. so you have never going to see that with president romney. you didn't see it with a governor romney. and there are reasons to be grateful for that too. so i think that's where the expectations are. >> cenk: all right. fascinating. michael shure thank you, man. romney going wild -- i shouldn't talk about that. [ laughter ] >> cenk: any ways, when we come back, we have a very serious story, unfortunately. fox news wound up showing basically a suicide on the air. how in the world did they screw this up? >> if it were up to me we would stay with this. but nothing is up to me. you wait until the end of this thing and thaw -- get off. get off. >> cenk: and later roseanne barr joins us. >> i'm using it as a stepping tone. >> cenk: oh, really. ♪ like you. >>now that's polit
but you are going to see a new league for mitt romney. and the confidence that he brings to the stage may in fact help. they are the only place he has to go right now. >> cenk: i wonder if that will lead him to swing a little bit more wildly. >> paul ryan was his wild swing. so you have never going to see that with president romney. you didn't see it with a governor romney. and there are reasons to be grateful for that too. so i think that's where the expectations are. >>...
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he has got to let mitt romney, in boxing terms, let mitt romney attack and then the president has to be ready at the key moment with a droll and devastating counter punch, if he's got one. got to maintain his cool the whole way along. i think he has shown pretty much during his presidency that he is able to do that the only time we have been able to point to where reloses his cool in a way is inadvertent, did it to hillary clinton, well you're likable enough, hillary. you have to be ready for that if you are caught glancing the wrong way, let alone saying the way al gore s. >> don't look at your watch. >> remember that. it could hurt you. it could hurt you. but he has got a much easier job, i think. the president has to defend his record in a positive way and those keep his cool. >> howard fineman, stopping by the kids' table here in denver. thanks for being part of the day. >> if you hear me singing at the end, ♪ turn out the lights, the party's over ♪ >> we will see you soon. finish that song. >>> up next, both sides dusting off old tapes hours before the first big debate, noth
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be romney. the problem is let romney be romney, is that there is no romney to be. >> he's been flailing around trying to prove that he cares about 100% of the population for a week now. let's listen to one of his least eloquent defenders makes the case. >> i know some of you people are not excited about romney. but the bottom line is folks, i don't care who you are, if you are a gay, one-armed amputee on the upper west side, there's not one thing mitt romney has done to you yet. and there's not one thing mitt romney plans on doing to you. but whatever your economic circumstance is, mitt romney has had nothing to do with it. >> so bob reich, i guess he's right there for every gay one-armed a.m. u tea on the upper west side of manhattan. >> i can make almost less sense of that than i can make of mitt romney. there is a choice that has to be made. republicans are going to be making that choice. and the question, the narrative that is going to be coming out over the next few weeks is the problem her
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romney specially tied in ohio. at least they show romney inside the margin of error in ohio. but again, they are not releasing this magical internal polling data. they are saying that's what it says. kind of like the summary of mitt romney's tax returns. if it's true they have internal polling data doing great in ohio, just in the interest of their donors, shouldn't they release those numbers? this isn't a magic thing. this isn't a hypothetical thing. in a real poll, which we can see the data for, we can see not only that it in ohio, president obama is up by eight, we can see why president obama is up by eight in ohio. that "washington post" poll out today has other data in it including the fact that 36% of all ohio voters say they have been contacted by the obama campaign. that contacted by the campaign number is seven points lower in term ls of the romney campaign. the obama campaign is doing it better. they are talking to more voters in ohio. that's making a difference. the hill today reporting that it's not just ohio. the obama campaign has double the number of field staf
romney specially tied in ohio. at least they show romney inside the margin of error in ohio. but again, they are not releasing this magical internal polling data. they are saying that's what it says. kind of like the summary of mitt romney's tax returns. if it's true they have internal polling data doing great in ohio, just in the interest of their donors, shouldn't they release those numbers? this isn't a magic thing. this isn't a hypothetical thing. in a real poll, which we can see the data...